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"Burnout has a web of causative factors...behavior change is hard...burnout is an issue of relationship", with Cait Donovan, on Burnout, Resentment, Chinese medicine, and a Holistic View of Life.

Cait Donovan is a renowned burnout expert, keynote speaker, and Chinese medicine practitioner. In this real, fun, moving, and profound conversation, Zhou learns from Cait about Burnout, resentment and boundary, getting help and support, behavioral change, Chinese medicine, and looking at someone's life holistically.
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