"Fear and pain are the same...they are both cry-for-help", with Isabel Benatar, on Chronic Pain Recovery, TMS (tension myositis syndrome), Fear and Pain, and Liberation.

Isabel Benatar is a certified Chronic Pain Recovery Practitioner. In this educational and thought-provoking conversation, Zhou learns about TMS - tension myositis syndrome, the stages of pain management, the connections between fear and pain, as well as our own journeys toward liberation.

Follow Isabel's work:

https://www.isabelbenatar.com/

https://www.instagram.com/chronicpainrecovery/

Books mentioned:

Healing Back Pain by John E. Sarno

When Things Fall Apart by Pema Chödrön

Unlearn Your Pain by Howard Schubiner and Michael Betzold